Yoshi's Island Mafia 2 : Revenge of the Koopas (Endgame)

Billy12510 said:
The Shattered Legacy said:
Billy12510 said:
Unknown Entity said:
Billy12510 said:
If anyone's acting suspicious...  it's probably Unknown. By his admission, they know something they aren't sharing with the rest of us.

Take whatever I say however you will. I would just be very cautious if I were you.

I'll also leave this here if you don't mind...

The Shattered Legacy said:
I paid a visit to you specifically overnight, yet I was unsuccessful. I feel it to be too coincidental if I was simply blocked by the Yoshis...
I hope that wasn't meant to make you more suspicious... What I infer from this is that you're either the Mason, Cultist, or part of the Mafia. I just wish I could back up my claim.

Who is this directed to?
It's directed at Unknown, he's just making himself more suspicious to me by dodging my question.

Sashe2705 said:
I still suspect Billy. Vote: Billy
Having suspicion isn't bad, but you're the only one who's turned that into a vote. Legacy and Unknown were also voting for each other, but they presumably have evidence behind their actions. And if you do, I'd like to hear it.
Billy12510 said:
Action right out of the gate huh?
Hm... not sure who to vote or what to believe at this point, for me perhaps no action is the best course of action, but I'll wait a bit before I do anything.

That's why i suspect you, Billy. It's not much but even if I'm wrong, I think we should not slack because the mafia is killing someone every night and if we do not lynch a Yoshi soon, the mafia will have more people than us and that will automatically lead to a win for the Yoshis. That's why my vote remains.
 
Slacker said:
The Shattered Legacy said:
I paid a visit to you specifically overnight, yet I was unsuccessful. I feel it to be too coincidental if I was simply blocked by the Yoshis...

I'll withdraw my vote if I'm given an adequate explanation.

An explanation? Hm.

Take a look at that quoted bit from The Shattered Legacy.

Keep in mind, even though what I say makes me still suspicious of TSL, I feel I don't have enough evidence to cast a vote on anyone.

I dunno how it looks to you, but me, that part about "it being too coincidental were he simply blocked by a Yoshi" says something. Now we obvs. tried to meet up at some point but we couldn't.

Is it because one of us just happens to be WITH the Yoshi's and they declined the offer? One of us IS a Yoshi? Or either of us could've been recruited to a team and that's why it failed.

That is primarily why I said to Billy for him to be cautious. I did abruptly say it out of nowhere which would make one think I'm the most suspicious. So, congratz, Unknown.

Giving what TSL said, I think we can rule out a Yoshi preventing it from being the reason.

And thus ends my explanation.
 
Slacker said:
I'm not entirely sure of HJ's intentions. While bringing up that he investigated a particular person (and got blocked doing so) countered a vote against him, I feel as though it put a target on him to be the next nightkill. What did you hope to accomplish by revealing your night action?
I was softclaiming here to substantiate my countervote. Like I said, I don't know what roles there could be out there, so your saying that I was 'investigating' (as per a cop or tracker or watcher) seems a bit presumptuous and/or giving away knowledge of something no ordinary townie would know. Regardless, the recent development with those items means that maybe it wasn't a completely suicidal idea to put a target above my head.

Sashe2705 said:
Billy12510 said:
Having suspicion isn't bad, but you're the only one who's turned that into a vote. Legacy and Unknown were also voting for each other, but they presumably have evidence behind their actions. And if you do, I'd like to hear it.
Billy12510 said:
Action right out of the gate huh?
Hm... not sure who to vote or what to believe at this point, for me perhaps no action is the best course of action, but I'll wait a bit before I do anything.

That's why i suspect you, Billy. It's not much but even if I'm wrong, I think we should not slack because the mafia is killing someone every night and if we do not lynch a Yoshi soon, the mafia will have more people than us and that will automatically lead to a win for the Yoshis. That's why my vote remains.
I'm going to assume the mafia only have a single kill action each night. With 7 alive now, assuming both a mislynch and a townkill occur, tomorrow we will already be at MYLO (where mislynching again is a mafia win). Sure, stalling isn't exactly good, but your logic connecting stalling with increased mafia chances doesn't quite match up. At least Billy to me sounds like he wants to make a decision after hearing everyone out.

Unknown Entity said:
I dunno how it looks to you, but me, that part about "it being too coincidental were he simply blocked by a Yoshi" says something. Now we obvs. tried to meet up at some point but we couldn't.

Is it because one of us just happens to be WITH the Yoshi's and they declined the offer? One of us IS a Yoshi? Or either of us could've been recruited to a team and that's why it failed.

Giving what TSL said, I think we can rule out a Yoshi preventing it from being the reason.
The bold suggests that at least one of us is a recruitment role. If that is the case, then the italicized part can't be explained based on the rules we've been told by gamemod - namely the priority of recruitment.

I certainly don't feel like I have enough to vote anyone definitively but there are a few FoSes I would like to make:

FoS Unknown - following on from the earlier (now reset) vote.
Fos Yoshidude1 - you didn't answer my question about why you thought my counter was suspicious, plus you are being rather passive otherwise.

In the meanwhile does anyone know where Koshi is? I'd like to hear his thoughts.
 
The Shattered Legacy said:
In the meanwhile does anyone know where Koshi is? I'd like to hear his thoughts.
*becomes paranoid*

Maybe he's laughing his face off within the shadows, watching us bickering while he plans his next kill...

OH GOD!!!
 
The Shattered Legacy said:
Slacker said:
I'm not entirely sure of HJ's intentions. While bringing up that he investigated a particular person (and got blocked doing so) countered a vote against him, I feel as though it put a target on him to be the next nightkill. What did you hope to accomplish by revealing your night action?
I was softclaiming here to substantiate my countervote. Like I said, I don't know what roles there could be out there, so your saying that I was 'investigating' (as per a cop or tracker or watcher) seems a bit presumptuous and/or giving away knowledge of something no ordinary townie would know. Regardless, the recent development with those items means that maybe it wasn't a completely suicidal idea to put a target above my head.

Sashe2705 said:
Billy12510 said:
Having suspicion isn't bad, but you're the only one who's turned that into a vote. Legacy and Unknown were also voting for each other, but they presumably have evidence behind their actions. And if you do, I'd like to hear it.
Billy12510 said:
Action right out of the gate huh?
Hm... not sure who to vote or what to believe at this point, for me perhaps no action is the best course of action, but I'll wait a bit before I do anything.

That's why i suspect you, Billy. It's not much but even if I'm wrong, I think we should not slack because the mafia is killing someone every night and if we do not lynch a Yoshi soon, the mafia will have more people than us and that will automatically lead to a win for the Yoshis. That's why my vote remains.
I'm going to assume the mafia only have a single kill action each night. With 7 alive now, assuming both a mislynch and a townkill occur, tomorrow we will already be at MYLO (where mislynching again is a mafia win). Sure, stalling isn't exactly good, but your logic connecting stalling with increased mafia chances doesn't quite match up. At least Billy to me sounds like he wants to make a decision after hearing everyone out.

Unknown Entity said:
I dunno how it looks to you, but me, that part about "it being too coincidental were he simply blocked by a Yoshi" says something. Now we obvs. tried to meet up at some point but we couldn't.

Is it because one of us just happens to be WITH the Yoshi's and they declined the offer? One of us IS a Yoshi? Or either of us could've been recruited to a team and that's why it failed.

Giving what TSL said, I think we can rule out a Yoshi preventing it from being the reason.
The bold suggests that at least one of us is a recruitment role. If that is the case, then the italicized part can't be explained based on the rules we've been told by gamemod - namely the priority of recruitment.

I certainly don't feel like I have enough to vote anyone definitively but there are a few FoSes I would like to make:

FoS Unknown - following on from the earlier (now reset) vote.
Fos Yoshidude1 - you didn't answer my question about why you thought my counter was suspicious, plus you are being rather passive otherwise.

In the meanwhile does anyone know where Koshi is? I'd like to hear his thoughts.

Hmm, yes, you're probably right about Billy. I guess I didn't understand his intention clearly. But remember, Billy - I'll be watching you ^-^.
 
I actually have been watching in the shadows, but its's to get a look as to who is out of place..and I really don't have a clue..everyone has had good points as to why they have to be good..it's challenging..I figured it was billy, but I really don't any longer. Countering was a sketchy move by Unknown Entity..but it was probably just out of being scared someone was trying to lynch them..
 
The Shattered Legacy said:
As for the vote, I'd like to ask Yoshidude what part of my counter was worthy of suspicion. Was it because I specifically mentioned my movements at night, or purely because I was trying to cover for myself?
I believed at the time your response seemed, it was suspicious. I thought your intentions were unclear, but after thinking it through more and reading more posts I believe I don't have  any proof that you are a Yoshi. Also about Billy, I find nothing suspicious and think his response was interpreted wrong. If I am suspicious about anyone right now it is Unknown. You seem to be avoiding a lot of questions.
 
Yoshidude1 said:
Sorry about the mess up post. I accidentally deleted something. Where the next paragraph is my post. That explains he modification. Sorry about that.
You're still not allowed to edit your posts, even if you make a slip-up.
For now, I guess I'll let it slide... simply because I don't want to do anything to anyone this far into discussion right now, but don't do it again.Total Votes :
Billy : 1 (Sashe)
Unknown : 1 (Slacker)
No Vote? : 2 (Unknown, Yoshidude)

IDK if I missed any votes because I didn't update that in a time. :p
A few very important notes though - never are you allowed to edit any of your posts that you make in this game. IDK if anyone reads all the rules anymore, but this is a very important one, so keep that one in mind.

Also, I'm missing about half the PM's for items to receive, and IDK if Jinx received any either, so if you sent one to him, could you just quote it and give it to me? And I'd also like any responses you got as well, Jinx.

And if you didn't send in a choice for an item, DO SO NOW.
That is all.
 
I wonder what will happen to me tonight...

I mean if Unknown's part of the Mafia I'd doubt they'd kill me and bring more suspicion upon them. Unless he isn't and the Mafia wants him to be a fall guy, that's happened before.

If I believe HJ's statement at face value though... it implies that both him and Unknown are the Mason/Cultist OR that HJ is the Mason/Cultist and Unknown has a Mafia role that isn't that of the Godfather, because that Godfather CAN be recruited by the Mason/Cultist. Although the one part where my logic falls apart is here: I'm not sure if regular mafia members can be recruited by the Mason/Cultist.

Hmm... F***! I don't know what to do! I guess... the one thing I could do... is test my theory. Vote: Unknown
 
My implicit understanding of recruiting is that Yoshis, being non-Shy Guy, cannot be recruited by either Cult or Masonry.

If we go by your theoretical scenario where Unknown is lynched:
If he flips Mafia there's no logical reason why they'd kill you other than a revenge kill
If he flips Town then mafia have their fall guy and who they choose to kill is back to relative chance

I don't see why mafia would particularly want to go after you when the fact that others are questioning your 'suspicion' (which I find a little thin on basis) helps their cause
 
I'd love to see the questions I avoided. Point them out please?

Or are you just going on the bandwagon to get someone killed off without any evidence to why you might suspect me other than "avoiding questions"?

Yeah. I sound pretty defensive but I feel I've the right.

I'll laugh at the townspeople when they realize what a mistake they made sending me into the luxury life of nothingness.
 
Unknown Entity said:
Take whatever I say however you will. I would just be very cautious if I were you.

I'll also leave this here if you don't mind...

The Shattered Legacy said:
I paid a visit to you specifically overnight, yet I was unsuccessful. I feel it to be too coincidental if I was simply blocked by the Yoshis...

See, you avoid answering the question and just blame H-J for being suspicious :-\.
 
Sashe2705 said:
Unknown Entity said:
Take whatever I say however you will. I would just be very cautious if I were you.

I'll also leave this here if you don't mind...

The Shattered Legacy said:
I paid a visit to you specifically overnight, yet I was unsuccessful. I feel it to be too coincidental if I was simply blocked by the Yoshis...

See, you avoid answering the question and just blame H-J for being suspicious :-\.

Oh, really? I can assume you and Yoshidude paid no attention to my explanation of that? And if you did why put all the blame on me unless you don't care either way because your Mafia? Is that it? Yours and Yoshidude's statement make both of you look like fools.

Here you go.

Unknown Entity said:
Slacker said:
The Shattered Legacy said:
I paid a visit to you specifically overnight, yet I was unsuccessful. I feel it to be too coincidental if I was simply blocked by the Yoshis...

I'll withdraw my vote if I'm given an adequate explanation.

An explanation? Hm.

Take a look at that quoted bit from The Shattered Legacy.

Keep in mind, even though what I say makes me still suspicious of TSL, I feel I don't have enough evidence to cast a vote on anyone.

I dunno how it looks to you, but me, that part about "it being too coincidental were he simply blocked by a Yoshi" says something. Now we obvs. tried to meet up at some point but we couldn't.

Is it because one of us just happens to be WITH the Yoshi's and they declined the offer? One of us IS a Yoshi? Or either of us could've been recruited to a team and that's why it failed.

That is primarily why I said to Billy for him to be cautious. I did abruptly say it out of nowhere which would make one think I'm the most suspicious. So, congratz, Unknown.

Giving what TSL said, I think we can rule out a Yoshi preventing it from being the reason.

And thus ends my explanation.
 
Unknown Entity said:
Sashe2705 said:
Unknown Entity said:
Take whatever I say however you will. I would just be very cautious if I were you.

I'll also leave this here if you don't mind...

The Shattered Legacy said:
I paid a visit to you specifically overnight, yet I was unsuccessful. I feel it to be too coincidental if I was simply blocked by the Yoshis...

See, you avoid answering the question and just blame H-J for being suspicious :-\.

Oh, really? I can assume you and Yoshidude paid no attention to my explanation of that? And if you did why put all the blame on me unless you don't care either way because your Mafia? Is that it? Yours and Yoshidude's statement make both of you look like fools.

Here you go.

Unknown Entity said:
Slacker said:
The Shattered Legacy said:
I paid a visit to you specifically overnight, yet I was unsuccessful. I feel it to be too coincidental if I was simply blocked by the Yoshis...

I'll withdraw my vote if I'm given an adequate explanation.

An explanation? Hm.

Take a look at that quoted bit from The Shattered Legacy.

Keep in mind, even though what I say makes me still suspicious of TSL, I feel I don't have enough evidence to cast a vote on anyone.

I dunno how it looks to you, but me, that part about "it being too coincidental were he simply blocked by a Yoshi" says something. Now we obvs. tried to meet up at some point but we couldn't.

Is it because one of us just happens to be WITH the Yoshi's and they declined the offer? One of us IS a Yoshi? Or either of us could've been recruited to a team and that's why it failed.

That is primarily why I said to Billy for him to be cautious. I did abruptly say it out of nowhere which would make one think I'm the most suspicious. So, congratz, Unknown.

Giving what TSL said, I think we can rule out a Yoshi preventing it from being the reason.

And thus ends my explanation.

That makes sense. Maybe it was just a coincidence after all. However, I won't withdraw my vote, just in case.
 
Are you afraid to talk 'cause you might give yourself away?

Or again, you just don't care what happens because your...Mafia.

Well, either way. Your starting to rub me the wrong way. Or perhaps a grudge is forming within me...

Putting a vote on Sashe.
 
Running_Yoshi_animation_by_Kaltral.gif
Yoshi's coming to kill

*leaves*
 
Unknown Entity said:
Are you afraid to talk 'cause you might give yourself away?

Or again, you just don't care what happens because your...Mafia.

Well, either way. Your starting to rub me the wrong way. Or perhaps a grudge is forming within me...

Putting a vote on Sashe.

I don't think you have enough evidence to suspect me. But if you have, I'd like to hear it.
 
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