U.S. 2016 Election
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Cute! See you haven't changed a bit, Aegis.
Perhaps that one particular statement may have been brash and distasteful. However, I initially made the comparison because with the pro-diversity sentiment that is highly prevalent among all Jewish media (that I can think of). If you can give any examples of a Jew being racist I would love to hear it because I can't think of any.Snowy said:
Let's ask actual Muslims:
https://youtu.be/PlqXgXwzkPg?t=100
There was also another BBC documentary that looked into being gay and Muslim (released I think in 2015, though I can't seem to find it) and the BBC tried to interview the mosque's on their view of homosexuality. All refused to answer. They managed to get one of these mosque attendees as an interviewee to which he literally stated "If you are gay you cannot be Muslim". If these are views held by Muslims in the west god forbid what they would be like in a place like Saudi Arabia. Oh yes, they're killed. Nevermind.
And polls among Muslims almost always agree that they hate homosexuals. These are two of many:
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/05/07/poll-finds-zero-tolerance-for-homosexuality-among-uk-muslims/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36016816
The BBC is SUPER left-wing.
You can still be gay and Muslim? Yeah ok...
That's fine but I don't see why you needed to bring up Trump here.
Literally 5 posts above I see the quote "how old are you" said by ttwashere to you. I'm pretty sure he didn't take you seriously. Besides, most people from either side don't take each other seriously. It's pretty much a redundant statement.
I always encourage people to do their own research from multiple varieties of sources in order to make their own judgements and opinions (and not be force fed the same stuff from the same biased news sources) But hey, this statement shouldn't be taken seriously, because Toblet said it.#sarcasm But really, I think even SJW's are beginning to take right-wingers seriously now, with Trump being elected and all.
man if you think the bbc is "super left wing" actual left wing views must make you shit your pants
I can give many examples on why I think it's very left wing, but I'm more interested in hearing why you don't think it's very left wing.MattC said:
okay give me examples on why you think it's very left wing.Toblet said:
Toblet I'm literally Jewish. I can be racist for you to prove a point.
Also literally anyone can be gay.
Also literally anyone can be gay.
It has views in line with SJW's.MattC said:
1. It hates white people.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3621658/BBC-turn-trainees-WHITE-Job-applicants-stunned-told-corporation-wants-people-ethnic-minority-backgrounds.html
I mean, there's diversity quotas and then there's actively turning away any and all applicants that have a certain skin colour.
But even diversity quotas I have a problem with. Never are we told that anything is too black (basketball) or too Muslim (Muslim-exclusive schools that have recently opened). Never is the word used to shame Asia for being too homogeneously Asian etc. etc. It's used to exclusively bash whites. Note that I don't have a problem with diversity if there is no hypocrisy involved.
2. The BBC is happy to express free speech... If it goes along with their political agenda.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/10697484/BBC-accused-of-gagging-debate-in-Free-Speech-show.html
Any and all problematic opinions must be interrupted and censored asap.
3. The BBC is incredibly PC throughout the refugee crisis.
They must never refer to any Syrians as rioters or even migrants. Nope, just 'refugee' as if it is an umbrella term that covers everyone.
Perhaps the biggest story throughout was the 'Syrian boy' whose body washed upon the shore 'fleeing war-ridden countries'. A tragic scene yes. However what the BBC failed to mention was that the boy was Turkish and not a refugee:
http://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/604590/Migrant-crisis-the-truth-about-the-boy-the-beach-Aylan-Kurdi
But the BBC don't care and refuse to portray any refugee in a negative light. "They're all good people" is the message they convey. As they refuse to cover real statistics and real news worth reporting on.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-and-denmark-have-highest-number-of-sexual-assaults-in-europe-a6800901.html
Even workers at the BBC have picked up on the left-wing bias:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10158679/BBC-has-deep-liberal-bias-executive-admits.html
4. The BBC was pro-Hillary anti-Trump throughout the entire election.
It stated that Hillary was almost certainly going to win the election. It was happy to ignore the email scandals. Or any other shady business Hillary has been involved in. Let's focus for weeks on that one 'pussy' comment that Donald Trump made 10 years ago.
These are a few of many examples. Again I ask, care to explain why it's not very left wing?
Ok that dead horse has been beaten (Rip). It was a bad point I get it.Snowy said:
Except straight people.
No but seriously technically yes you can be gay and muslim. But that is not to say that homosexuality is compatible with Islam. Islam, like Christianity, would need to be reformed in order for that to happen. But then again, that would never happen because Islam is the sacred religion that can do no wrong and any attempts to change it is 'Islamaphobic'.
Toblet said:
i searched 'bbc refugee crisis' and found an article that uses both the words you claim they never use:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38090753
This is the least important point you could possibly quote.MattC said:
I even asked you twice to post your opinion on why you think it's not very left wing. Am I to assume you agree with every other point?
i mean, the fact that i blew a hole in your third point with a single google search leads me to believe you're just parroting the garbage you hear about bbc being incredibly left wing.Toblet said:
i think they do side towards liberal viewpoints more often, but my point was they aren't completely ~~~equality for all government should control the market full socialism~~~, which is what "very" left wing is. actual left wingers (which are different from liberals, regardless of what the alt-right echo chamber screams at you) also believe the BBC is biased.
yeah, socially equality and equity are rooted on the left but do you seriously think those are bad values to carry in society?
also i either disagree or think you're widely exaggerating on most of your points. you really think an organization that is 85% white is discriminating against all of them?
Toblet where are you getting your information from? It sounds like you're just copy and pasting an atguement you've read on reddit before.
You sound like one of those people that's like "entire argument discredited because I disproved a joke!" (Onision)
Oh so because I have a different opinion I'm automatically alt-right?
Some of the quotes I find in that article are incredibly disturbing. Yet you compare this with genuine concerns of the public? Find a source that suggests that the BBC is biased towards the right in an article that's 'liberal' as you say, and doesn't support communism.
No they're not bad values. Too bad they're not practiced, though. Even by many 'liberals'.
For example, feminism, said to be the equality of men and women. In practice exclusively focuses on the rights of women. It ignores men's issues such as suicide rates and child custody. And most media outlets are proud to say they support feminism.
Okay maybe I exaggerated a little. However, the BBC has already achieved it's 'diversity' quota and still appologized for being too 'white'.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/670266/BBC-advert-white-people-ethnic-equality-staff-job-internship
It can thus be argued that it is trying to get rid of white employees wherever possible. However, the BBC has already commented that it is having trouble finding people from 'ethnic minority backgrounds' and thus are forced to hire more whites at a higher rate that it would like. Hey, I guess you can't force people to do something they don't want to do.
However, taking light of a negative situation, this has turned into some hilarious cases of karma.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/oct/02/bbc-presenter-jon-holmes-the-now-show-sacked
A white politically correct guy fired for being white now complaining about being fired for racism. People like this only want diversity if it doesn't affect them. The hypocrisy. Something tells me more stories like this will prop up over the coming years.
The internet? Do you have anything to contribute, or?Snowy said:
Wow, go fuck your self. I was just asking where you got your information you little prick.
Also I'll add this before you try to refute anything else, feminism and third wave feminism are two very very different things.
And I was just asking if you had anything to contribute. Triggered much?Snowy said:
I know this but many others don't. Feminism today is not what it once was. I was referring to the feminism of today.Snowy said:
Triggered? Jeeeesus Christ.
The topic is U.S. 2016 Elections. If you want to discuss that, have a debate, whatever, that's fine. This is starting to turn into something else. Be mature everyone.