SERIOUS DISCUSSION about the forum - Open Debate/Conference

[H-J Kaabii]

With the current turmoil of the past few weeks, it's time there was some proper medium of level but critical discussion.

Those who are passionate about the issue are free to post here on their thoughts etc, PROVIDED they do not step over bounds and criticize another member's opinion without due grounds. "It's not a big deal" WILL NOT SUFFICE.





For myself, the concept of a Mario Party-themed forum/site/whatever is to create a friendly environment wherein people of ALL AGES can enjoy discussions about but not limited to Mario Party. I feel that it is important to RESPECT the emotional opinions of others, those from (for example) 2 years old to the older generation (parents and above). The forum is NOT a place for the quotidian bathos of crude, tasteless and generally offensive material, whether in the form of jokes, mulitmedia, or others. Just because something is not offensive to the American (and this narrowing of target is merely exemplifying my point, not condescending or stereotyping anyone) teenager, does not mean that others find it offensive. Sure, you may think that no-one watches you when you choose to involve yourself in this kind of content, but that is a grave misconception.

Of most concern to me is that the integrity and moral harmony of the forum is at risk of destruction. Opinions: sure, the American Bill of Rights gives you free speech, but the internet is a different medium with differing standards for different situations. This one here, I believe very strongly is to ensure the site remains family-friendly, and provides a pleasant environment to work with. So far, these last few weeks have shattered that image.

On to the matter of members leaving: little kids avoid the problem (i.e. run away). The adolescents (used here figuratively) see no problem, or they acknowledge the problem but do nothing about it. Those that take the courage to positively commit themselves to the resolution of a problem in general are the ones who show the highest levels of maturity, and it is those people who are truly worthy of staff positions.

While this may seem like the ramblings of a fool, as I quote Hamlet, Act 2 Scene 2 (or 3, depending on version of the play): "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't." Take serious consideration into formulating your opinions, and post carefully. Heed the warning at the top of the post: do not criticize with undue reason.

H-J

 

[Ryoux0]

I understand where you are coming from but I don't really see the big deal. People need to just chill out and not be so super-sensitive. They are after all only words. While it is true that we should be considerate of others emotions and sensitivity levels, but I think coming down on every joke or sex reference is just being way too strict. We'll never have any older members if this continues to happen. Hell we may not even have any more members period. 

 

[AegisReflector]

For myself, the concept of a Mario Party-themed forum/site/whatever is to create a friendly environment wherein people of ALL AGES can enjoy discussions about but not limited to Mario Party. I feel that it is important to RESPECT the emotional opinions of others, those from (for example) 2 years old to the older generation (parents and above). The forum is NOT a place for the quotidian bathos of crude, tasteless and generally offensive material, whether in the form of jokes, mulitmedia, or others. Just because something is not offensive to the American (and this narrowing of target is merely exemplifying my point, not condescending or stereotyping anyone) teenager, does not mean that others find it offensive. Sure, you may think that no-one watches you when you choose to involve yourself in this kind of content, but that is a grave misconception.

First, may I remind all you people that this is the Internet. NOTHING is family-friendly on the tubes, even if you go to a Blues Clues fan forum, there are still trolls and spammers out there that WILL attempt to make people miserable. Don't you think for a goddamn minute that you guys can change that by banning people who make the LITTLEST risque jokes.

To your age comment, uh, as i've stated manymanymanyMANY times before, the SMF ToS clearly states that people under the age of 13 should not use forums. In fact, every forum server has that rule. Invision Free, Freewebs, Invision Power, etc. EVERY FORUM SERVER has some sort of age limit around their ToS. And you want to know why? It's because they know that little kids can't handle some of the content that mature teenagers post. And it was clearly shown in these past few weeks that kids under 13 don't really handle jokes that well. This is why they have age limits, people. Not because they are mean, but to make forums avoid this kind of crap.

To your risque jokes statement, how is one sex joke gonna kill people? What is wrong with saying "PENIS!" or "Your mom was good last night."? What if I wanted to say "Hitler was a furry fgt"? Does that mean that i'm a troll for insulting Hitler, one of the most infamous leaders of all of history? We should be able to make comments that ARE AT A REASONABLE FUNNY LEVEL. I'm not saying people should outright flame people or call them "furry fgts", but what I am saying is that the Staff and Members here really need to get a sense of humor and stop being so overreactive about stupid jokes such as "That's what she said."

Of most concern to me is that the integrity and moral harmony of the forum is at risk of destruction. Opinions: sure, the American Bill of Rights gives you free speech, but the internet is a different medium with differing standards for different situations. This one here, I believe very strongly is to ensure the site remains family-friendly, and provides a pleasant environment to work with. So far, these last few weeks have shattered that image.

Alright, i'm going to say this one more time: IT'S THE GODDAMN INTERNET. And you're actually saying that the Bill of Rights applies more on real life than on the internet? Dude, listen to what you are saying, because it doesn't make any logical sense. Are you saying the Internet doesn't allow free speech and doesn't allow naughty things to get by? Have you seen sites such as 4chan or Meatspin? The Internet certainly does not have a different medium than real life. It's, in fact, quite the opposite. In real life, you don't see people blatantly "trolling" people out of the blue or you don't see 4channers going out with Pedobear dolls and laying them on the streets everywhere. Everything you have said about the Bill of Rights doesn't make any sense.

To your "family-friendly" part, do you actually think this is like Nick Jr.com? No, man. It's a Mario Party Forum. Parents and 5-year-olds will NOT go on here to learn something new, nor is it relative to a family's activity.

On to the matter of members leaving: little kids avoid the problem (i.e. run away). The adolescents (used here figuratively) see no problem, or they acknowledge the problem but do nothing about it. Those that take the courage to positively commit themselves to the resolution of a problem in general are the ones who show the highest levels of maturity, and it is those people who are truly worthy of staff positions.

Funny how me, Ryoux, Cook, JxT, and MLYW are the only ones trying to stop this while you and VIP just sit on your asses doing nothing. So, apparently, what you are saying is that all 4 of us should have Staff spots. Great! I can finally warn all of the immature brats that actually DESERVE a warning.

While this may seem like the ramblings of a fool, as I quote Hamlet, Act 2 Scene 2 (or 3, depending on version of the play): "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't." Take serious consideration into formulating your opinions, and post carefully. Heed the warning at the top of the post: do not criticize with undue reason.

Quite. And i'll post a quote from Mark Twain:

"Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference"

 

[Q]

the SMF ToS clearly states that people under the age of 13 should not use forums. In fact, every forum server has that rule. Invision Free, Freewebs, Invision Power, etc. EVERY FORUM SERVER has some sort of age limit around their ToS. And you want to know why?

Actually, the reason you give is incorrect. It's a law that kids under 13 cannot join forums. Therefore, anyone under 13 who is on the forum is not only breaking the ToS, but the law of the land. You'll notice it's the same case in MMOs, chatrooms, etc. And anyone who knowingly aids and abeds lawbreakers by allowing people under 13 on... well, need I say more?

Regarding the original post, there's really no reason a 13 year old shouldn't be able to handle it. If you want to impose Puritan values on your forum, whatever. Your forum, your choice. Just realize you alienate just as many people, if not more, who don't feel like talking like they're on Barney or Seasame Street. As far as I'm concerned, if it's SFW, it's fine with me.

 

[cookieboy17]

Aegis the internet is serious business, or at least that seems like the motto of this joint.