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Re: U.S. 2016 Election
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2016, 09:23:59 PM »
The only people crying about Trump are the ones who think he hates LGBTQ and black people. In reality they are just salty whiners. I will change my opinion when he passes an anti-gay law, but for now he's our President and we need to give him a chance.
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
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Re: U.S. 2016 Election
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2016, 09:14:23 PM »
The only people crying about Trump are the ones who think he hates LGBTQ and black people. In reality they are just salty whiners. I will change my opinion when he passes an anti-gay law, but for now he's our President and we need to give him a chance.
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
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Re: U.S. 2016 Election
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2016, 07:08:27 PM »
Controversial time. :D But I thought I would give my cents on some of the bigger points. Feel free to disagree. Free thought is what keeps the world ticking, after-all.

Hope you Americans like fascism.
One point I rarely see mentioned is that Trump has been a celebrity his entire career. If you are a radical right-winger and a celebrity people become disinterested in you and you lose relevancy fast. And Trump has maintained a steady fan-base throughout his career. Strange that Trump was only labelled a fascist Nazi after he ran for president, huh.

Trump's a scammer. What makes this whole fiasco worse is that Congress is currently controlled by the Republicans. We're F***ed.
The only scammer in this entire election is Jill Stein that prayed upon the fears of liberals hoping for a tiny possibility of a recount. In reality, she knew the recount wouldn't go through, purposely waited for the deadline to pass in certain states, and made 7 million off of it. Not bad for a months work.

He named Reince Priebus, the current head of the RNC, his Chief of Staff and Steve Bannon, a white supremacist and antisemite as his Chief Strategist.

Whatever chance he had, he just lost it.
I read both articles in this quote (Rip me). Both are biased but that "white supremacist" article is the worst thing I've ever read. It is an SJW reporter using a personal vendetta to taint the name of an innocent man. It's disgusting. I know nothing of Steve Bannon, but nothing in the article is evidence-based and everything is as extremely biased as you can get. Text book definition of how NOT to report. (Reporting should always attempt to remain as unbiased as possible by using facts and statistics or multiple credible witness statements) To take a direct quote:
"In my opinion, Steve Bannon is a bully, and has sold out Andrew’s mission in order to back another bully, Donald Trump; he has shaped the company into Trump’s personal Pravda…the facts are undeniable".
So opinions are fact now? The rest of the article is either false, exaggerated, meaningless, or biased to the point of losing all credibility. I can dissect the article if you want but I'd rather not. Terrible article. I noticed the article also deemed Milo Y. a white supremacist. It's only fair for the man himself to defend himself:
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    As an added note, Brietbart is a company formed by Jews. A racist Jew is like an unintelligent 8B1T, VIP with no money, or a gay Muslim. Completely incompatible.

     
    it makes me want to move to canada!
    A country more white than America. No surprise there.

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    Trump called climate change 'a hoax', wants to remove environmental regulations and has appointed a climate change skeptic to lead the EPA transition. Climate change is the biggest problem the entire world as a whole is currently facing, and having the leader of the most powerful nation on the planet deny it is extremely troubling. Above anything else this is the reason to be against him.
    While I don't reject the possibility of there being a climate change, I despite that you're acting like we can't even question it. Some of the best ideas in the world that are now accepted as mainsteam today came by challenging the narrative. If people become too scared to challenge the narrative nothing ever changes and increases the likelihood of wrong ideas remaining mainstream for decades to come.

    The concept of climate change coming into the light came by challenging the narrative that there wasn't a climate change. It is now mainstream. Now people say it may be fake and suddenly challenging the narrative is condemable? Science adapts. Science gets a lot right. Science gets a lot wrong. But we must always look at it critically and consider sources put out by BOTH left wing and right wing.

    I don't neccessarily believe the video below, but it's important to consider that there are alternate voices. Voices which are also backed by evidence, though months of testing will be required to see if the man's claims are legitimate.
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    Trump was complaining that the election was going to be rigged and several of his supporters, again likely a small minority, were threatening to take up arms if he were to lose the election.
    Considering that the entire media was pro-hillary, censored any Trump view that did not fit their narrative, bussed around liberals to vote in multiple states for Hillary, encouraged illegals to vote (which also pushed Hillary into winning the popular vote, otherwise it's more than likely she would have lost that too), and video footage of machines changing votes to Hillary if the person clicked Trump (a minority of cases, but still). The reason he won was because his victory was essentially a landslide in the rural regions.

    Yet specific Hillary supporters claimed the election was rigged AFTER his win. They didn't speak up when they thought she would win!

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    The vice president elect is very anti LGBTQ and Trump went through hell and back to get the five teenagers wrongfully accused of rape executed. He has done nothing to put these accusations to rest.
    One of the only legitimate "anti-lgbt" claims from the left and it's regarding Mike Pence. Funny how easy it is to back up claims when there is real evidence rather than emotional-based automatic responses that the left usually resorts to. Regarding the other article, yes he should drop that but there is no evidence Trump wants them sent down because of their race.

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    Just like how conservatives gave Obama a chance? He has full control of the United States government and has a ton of corrupt GOP stooges in his ear.
    Take it from a European that is deeply concerned that the left-wing government is doing everything it can do eradicate our culture and traditions. Yes, it may be for the best. I read an article a year ago about a muslim calling the police on a british man that had the gall to wear a BRITISH FLAG as a shirt. I know, terrible right? Understandably, the man was met with unanimous praise in the comments section when he said he wasn't fased and was going to continue flaunting our flag regardless.

    As a result of multiculturalism we now have islamist-only zones in Europe and the situation is only getting worse. Some cultures assimilate. Others don't. It's important to be able to criticise all cultures individually rather than lump them into the same 'Equality' sentiment. As an example, there's a reason why nobody has a problem with Asians and their peaceful traditions compared to Islam where we have almost become conditioned to think Islamic terrorism is so normal that it's not worthy of news reporting anymore (which it most certainly is). It's incredibly upsetting to me the path we are being led down. Fortunately some of us are waking up in the form of Brexit and Italian Exit. Others not so much (Rip Austria and Sweden.).[/list]
    « Last Edit: December 12, 2016, 07:25:30 PM by Toblet »

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    Re: U.S. 2016 Election
    « Reply #18 on: December 13, 2016, 01:35:16 PM »
    The only people crying about Trump are the ones who think he hates LGBTQ and black people. In reality they are just salty whiners. I will change my opinion when he passes an anti-gay law, but for now he's our President and we need to give him a chance.
    If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

    23! Why does it matter how old I am? I am a taxpayer, I respect my country, and I believe Trump is the change we need to get out of a stagnant economy and divided nation. It's only the SJWs that are preventing these things from happening because "safe space".

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    « Reply #19 on: December 31, 2016, 09:58:20 AM »
    Saying that a Jew cannot be racist might be the funniest thing I've ever read. Thank you Toblet. Also Muslims can be gay lmao. What planet are you even from?
    ↑↑↑You are nothing but a poor, destitute, desperate, hypocritical, coal-black-hearted Satanspawn who lives off of others' suffering and I am through all of this because I am better than that and you.

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    « Reply #20 on: December 31, 2016, 01:23:12 PM »
    Saying that a Jew cannot be racist might be the funniest thing I've ever read. Thank you Toblet. Also Muslims can be gay lmao. What planet are you even from?

    As a Trump supporter, I don't support these sentiments. Yeah, Toblet is severely misguided and he's the reason why our camp isn't taken seriously.
    « Last Edit: December 31, 2016, 01:25:30 PM by Kaede »

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    « Reply #21 on: December 31, 2016, 01:46:52 PM »
    Cute! See you haven't changed a bit, Aegis.
    ↑↑↑You are nothing but a poor, destitute, desperate, hypocritical, coal-black-hearted Satanspawn who lives off of others' suffering and I am through all of this because I am better than that and you.

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    « Reply #22 on: December 31, 2016, 02:16:40 PM »
    Cute! See you haven't changed a bit, Aegis.

    I was agreeing with you.

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    Re: U.S. 2016 Election
    « Reply #23 on: January 01, 2017, 06:01:07 PM »
    Saying that a Jew cannot be racist might be the funniest thing I've ever read.
    Perhaps that one particular statement may have been brash and distasteful. However, I initially made the comparison because with the pro-diversity sentiment that is highly prevalent among all Jewish media (that I can think of). If you can give any examples of a Jew being racist I would love to hear it because I can't think of any.

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    Also Muslims can be gay lmao.
    Let's ask actual Muslims:
    https://youtu.be/PlqXgXwzkPg?t=100

    There was also another BBC documentary that looked into being gay and Muslim (released I think in 2015, though I can't seem to find it) and the BBC tried to interview the mosque's on their view of homosexuality. All refused to answer. They managed to get one of these mosque attendees as an interviewee to which he literally stated "If you are gay you cannot be Muslim". If these are views held by Muslims in the west god forbid what they would be like in a place like Saudi Arabia. Oh yes, they're killed. Nevermind.

    And polls among Muslims almost always agree that they hate homosexuals. These are two of many:
    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/05/07/poll-finds-zero-tolerance-for-homosexuality-among-uk-muslims/
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36016816

    The BBC is SUPER left-wing.

    You can still be gay and Muslim? Yeah ok...

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    As a Trump supporter, I don't support these sentiments.
    That's fine but I don't see why you needed to bring up Trump here.

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    Yeah, Toblet is severely misguided and he's the reason why our camp isn't taken seriously.
    Literally 5 posts above I see the quote "how old are you" said by ttwashere to you. I'm pretty sure he didn't take you seriously. Besides, most people from either side don't take each other seriously. It's pretty much a redundant statement.

    I always encourage people to do their own research from multiple varieties of sources in order to make their own judgements and opinions (and not be force fed the same stuff from the same biased news sources) But hey, this statement shouldn't be taken seriously, because Toblet said it.#sarcasm But really, I think even SJW's are beginning to take right-wingers seriously now, with Trump being elected and all.

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    Re: U.S. 2016 Election
    « Reply #24 on: January 01, 2017, 07:07:32 PM »
    man if you think the bbc is "super left wing" actual left wing views must make you s*** your pants
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    Re: U.S. 2016 Election
    « Reply #25 on: January 01, 2017, 07:26:35 PM »
    man if you think the bbc is "super left wing" actual left wing views must make you s*** your pants
    I can give many examples on why I think it's very left wing, but I'm more interested in hearing why you don't think it's very left wing.

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    « Reply #26 on: January 01, 2017, 08:29:42 PM »
    man if you think the bbc is "super left wing" actual left wing views must make you s*** your pants
    I can give many examples on why I think it's very left wing, but I'm more interested in hearing why you don't think it's very left wing.
    okay give me examples on why you think it's very left wing.
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    Re: U.S. 2016 Election
    « Reply #27 on: January 04, 2017, 07:25:14 AM »
    Toblet I'm literally Jewish. I can be racist for you to prove a point.

    Also literally anyone can be gay.
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    Re: U.S. 2016 Election
    « Reply #28 on: January 04, 2017, 09:18:00 AM »
    man if you think the bbc is "super left wing" actual left wing views must make you s*** your pants
    I can give many examples on why I think it's very left wing, but I'm more interested in hearing why you don't think it's very left wing.
    okay give me examples on why you think it's very left wing.
    It has views in line with SJW's.

    1. It hates white people.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3621658/BBC-turn-trainees-WHITE-Job-applicants-stunned-told-corporation-wants-people-ethnic-minority-backgrounds.html
    I mean, there's diversity quotas and then there's actively turning away any and all applicants that have a certain skin colour.

    But even diversity quotas I have a problem with. Never are we told that anything is too black (basketball) or too Muslim (Muslim-exclusive schools that have recently opened). Never is the word used to shame Asia for being too homogeneously Asian etc. etc. It's used to exclusively bash whites. Note that I don't have a problem with diversity if there is no hypocrisy involved.

    2. The BBC is happy to express free speech... If it goes along with their political agenda.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/10697484/BBC-accused-of-gagging-debate-in-Free-Speech-show.html

    Any and all problematic opinions must be interrupted and censored asap.

    3. The BBC is incredibly PC throughout the refugee crisis.
    They must never refer to any Syrians as rioters or even migrants. Nope, just 'refugee' as if it is an umbrella term that covers everyone.

    Perhaps the biggest story throughout was the 'Syrian boy' whose body washed upon the shore 'fleeing war-ridden countries'. A tragic scene yes. However what the BBC failed to mention was that the boy was Turkish and not a refugee:
    http://www.express.co.uk/comment/expresscomment/604590/Migrant-crisis-the-truth-about-the-boy-the-beach-Aylan-Kurdi

    But the BBC don't care and refuse to portray any refugee in a negative light. "They're all good people" is the message they convey. As they refuse to cover real statistics and real news worth reporting on.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-and-denmark-have-highest-number-of-sexual-assaults-in-europe-a6800901.html

    Even workers at the BBC have picked up on the left-wing bias:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10158679/BBC-has-deep-liberal-bias-executive-admits.html

    4. The BBC was pro-Hillary anti-Trump throughout the entire election.
    It stated that Hillary was almost certainly going to win the election. It was happy to ignore the email scandals. Or any other shady business Hillary has been involved in. Let's focus for weeks on that one 'pussy' comment that Donald Trump made 10 years ago.

    These are a few of many examples. Again I ask, care to explain why it's not very left wing?

    Toblet I'm literally Jewish. I can be racist for you to prove a point.
    Ok that dead horse has been beaten (Rip). It was a bad point I get it.

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    Also literally anyone can be gay.
    Except straight people.

    No but seriously technically yes you can be gay and muslim. But that is not to say that homosexuality is compatible with Islam. Islam, like Christianity, would need to be reformed in order for that to happen. But then again, that would never happen because Islam is the sacred religion that can do no wrong and any attempts to change it is 'Islamaphobic'.
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    Re: U.S. 2016 Election
    « Reply #29 on: January 04, 2017, 01:41:44 PM »
    They must never refer to any Syrians as rioters or even migrants. Nope, just 'refugee' as if it is an umbrella term that covers everyone.

    i searched 'bbc refugee crisis' and found an article that uses both the words you claim they never use:
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38090753
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